OK for the folks that are not going to be at the draft, the tool that Mike purchased will only let you log in and see who has being drafted live. You will still have to either webcam in or have an IM going with us. The website will update the picks as they are made. I tested the system and there is only a couple second delay from when we draft a player to when the website updates. So you will just have to keep an eye on the live draft board and text us your picks when your on the clock.

To log into the draft go to http://www.fandraftweb.com/

league id 13606
password jm94c7rd7n

If you are skyping in it would be best if you give Mike your skype name and get his before the draft. If you are just going to IM let us know if you are using yahoo, facebook or whatever so we don't have to figure this all out five minutes before the draft. Since we are drafting at seven I would like to have everyone online and connected 15 to 20 minutes before we start so we can work out all the kinks.

If you log in now you should already see everyones keeper picks displayed and what round and pick they are being taken in. Let me know if you guys have any questions.

The final decision we came to on the keepers moving forward after this year were.

No players can be kept if they were selected in the first three rounds of the draft and there will be no loss of draft picks after this year.So if you snag a Cam Newton in the 4th round or higher you can keep him for 3 years. But if yo take Tom Brady in the 1st he will be thrown back into the player pool next year.

Also, players willonly be able to be kept for a max of three years.

Therefore if you have a keeper this year that was selected in the first three rounds you will not be able to keep that player next year.

I'm sure there are going to be questions so throw them out here on the board so everyone knows what is going on.

I don't think we ever officially set a draft time. For now let's say 1900 on the 25th at Mike's. For those of you not going to be there make sure to check out the draft service Mike purchased.

I think I have the draft order and keepers done. Take a look and let me know if anything looks out of sorts.

I've been kicking around ideas on how to move forward with the keeper league. We need to lay out some ground rules soon. Mainly what is the price for keeping players. Read the ideas below and let me know what you think. We can tweek these any way we want.

FFGeekBlog Keeper League Rules:

1. Each team can keep from 0-3 players from their previous end-of-season roster – Depending on what players are left on your team at the end of the previous season, you may wish to “keep” none of your players.

2. Players drafted in the first 3 rounds of a draft can not be kept in the following season – This prevents the top tier of players from being kept and creating massively unfair teams. Due to rule 4 below, the first 2 rounds technically couldn’t be kept anyways.

3. A Player can only be kept a maximum of 3 consecutive times – This rule is there just to keep things interesting. If you want the same player(s) on the same team year after year, maybe you should start a Dynasty league instead.

4. For each player that is kept (and was originally drafted by a team), that manager must give up a draft pick 2 picks higher than where the player was initially drafted the year before – This ensures that players that improve in talent each season are accounted for. If Frank Gore was drafted in the 13th round last year, you probably don’t want him counting for a teams 13th pick for the next 3 years.


Example: Wide receiver Brandon Marshall was drafted in the 11th round last year. If kept, this year he would account for the teams 9th round pick. If kept again, the following year he would be considered the 7th round pick.

5. Any player that went undrafted the previous year, but is being kept, will count as a team’s 3rd to last draft pick – This rule is there to slightly reward good drafting, as keeping free agent pickups are a little pricier than last round draft picks.


Example: Marques Colston was picked up off free agency last season by a team. If the league has 15 rounds in its draft, and the manager wishes to keep Colston, he must give up his 12th round pick the following season (as opposed to a player drafted in the 15th round, who would only count for the 13th pick).

6. If you do not have a draft pick for a round to give up to keep a player, you must give up the next higher pick – This might happen if you trade away a draft pick during preseason or have 2 keepers that have the same draft status from the previous year. One tip to consider if you have 2 players vying for the same draft spot is to make sure the player most likely to be kept the next year is taken with the higher pick. This makes his keeper “price” cheaper for the next draft.


Example: You wish to keep two free agents that you picked up during last season. Because both of them would qualify for your 12th pick (in a 15 round draft), one must count as the 12th pick, but the other will have to be your 11th pick.

Here is another suggestion:

1. Determine how many players each team can keep

The first thing you need to make clear is the number of players each team can retain. It is probably a good idea to keep the number low. A good keeper league shouldn't allow anyone to retain more than three players on their team from year to year.

2. Set up tiers

You shouldn't allow fantasy players to retain anyone drafted in the first two rounds. This prevents people from stocking up on the best players. After that, base the rules on where players are drafted. For example, if someone retains a third round pick then they can't retain any other players. If they retain a pick in the fourth through seventh rounds, they can retain a total of two players. This also helps keep teams fair from year to year.

3. Compensatory picks

One great idea to keep a keeper league fair is to use compensatory picks. For example, if you retain a third round player then you must forfeit that pick the following year. You could also base the forfeited pick on where that player projects to be drafted. The idea is to limit the advantage of retaining players after each season.

4. Limit the number of seasons

It is a good idea to not let someone retain the same player for more than three seasons. This prevents from running the same team every year. In addition, it keeps the draft exciting. The idea of a keeper league is to keep things fair, not to build dynasties.

5. Limit positions

Running backs are fantasy studs. With that said, there should be a rule that prevents fantasy owners from retaining more than one player at a position. Again, this serves as a way to keep the league balanced. It isn't a good idea to let players stock up at one position. That could create an unfair situation the following season. I like this one cause I see a bunch of us keeping all rb's.

I have preset us for an online draft this year. I think it will be difficult to do a live draft with Kyler, Paul, Bill and Steve-O not around to draft this year. We can change it if we figure out a way to get people connected in. I will not be drafting for anyone this year. It's too difficult to draft my own team and write down everyone eles picks.. Yes, that is the only reason I lost last year. Johnny O should be kicking me some cash for picking him a good team.

I'll update everyones keepers soon. The only change so far to the original keeper list is that Kyler paid $25 to change from Sproles to Foster.